>> well, we only need 51, so four can go, actually, five can go because vice president biden has said he supports these things. we'll see. so you if you had 50 plus him, there you have the new rules for the next congress. >> but if you lose next tuesday you have as you've already said based upon the past almost no chance of anything happening in congress. >> and we need to reset, we will know who's who even though they won't publicize that, but we will know who's who. and we need to look at primaries. we needo look at saying, "guess what? we're not going to get involved at all, none of the progressives. so if you have a republican takeover in that seat that's the way it goes. we will fight it out in the primaries. we can't roll over," to use your words, strong words i might add. we have to show that we can make a difference. >> are they inaccurate words? >> no, i feel that way sometimes. >> time and again corporate breaks get in because democrats wanted them in. time and again legislation favorable to labor doesn't get in because corporate democrats won't move it along. >> that's righ